Hi Bob...

>Thanks, John. I guess most of my experience is rooted so deep in xbase it's >hard for me to see any other type of solution. I'm trying to see the light... >I've begun to see the light. And that being said, as president of the user >group here in Phoenix I need to maintain some degree of loyalty. They don't >call me the Fox-Nazi because I don't have any opinion on the subject (:-)

Thats cool, and I totally appreciate where you are coming from. I don't really see the issue with regard to loyalty. Using one tool over another - because it is the correct to use - does not signify by un-loyal. Rather, it signifies that you are a smart developer. You know...not using a screwdriver to hammer a nail....

I know about your group. Scott Malinowski - who lives in Scottsdale - is one of my closest and dearst friends. Heck, he taught me my first Fox class. He is the guy who showed me the power of Fox. I know your group is Fox specific. However, I would highly encourage you to expand the group to think in terms of Visual Studio - not a specific product...