With code, i can drop it into a program and run the program.

I have had limited and inconsistent success using vfp form builder and have invested (and wasted) a lot of time trying it out. afraid i would need someone to walk me through it to get it working with anything producing remotely practical results. i certainly recognize the advantages but there is mountain between me and that destination hence my constant requests for work-around code that can do the more advanced fucntions i need.

appreciate the blunt question Sergey - you hit the heart of the issue. and thank you Koen for the link - that i wish i could make use of. apologies for the straight and narrow questions i post.

k

>Why would you want to define form in code in the first place?
>
>>How would i assign a font and font size to this form.
>>tnx
>>k
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>>Define Class form1 As Form
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>>	Top = 23
>>	Left = 248
>>	Height = 300
>>	Width = 375
>>	DoCreate = .T.
>>	ShowTips = .T.
>>	Caption = "My Form"
>>	Name = "Form1"
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