>Just want to insert into the thread another pitch for Learndevnow.com
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>For $129 there is a one year subscription with sample code for all of the AppDev training videos. Recently they have added Silverlight 4.0 and WPF in VS 2010 in both C# and VB.
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>You get two licenses so can run the training from your laptop and your desktop.
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>This is the most training bang-for-the-buck than I have seen in 30 years in this business ( even a better deal than my VFE stuff <bg> )
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I've been thinking about doing that. The price is right. That might be my target for tonight.

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>>I don't see a version anywhere in this message header so I'm going to recommend an older tutorial (but a good one for just starting out):
>>http://www.codeproject.com/KB/WPF/WPFDataGridExamples.aspx
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>>A basic (different perspective) using 2010:
>>http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/UploadFile/mahesh/WpfDGP109272009111405AM/WpfDGP1.aspx
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>>>>>Did MS ever expand the windows enviroment (windows forms)? Most of the expansion came from 3rd party tools.
>>>>>Will Line of business developer use WPF? Sure some will. Will WPF provide any benefit? Not really. I’m still waiting for the articles and videos that show how WPF is going to make the presentation layer development better for line of business. Here is how I interpit WPF in line of business. Hey this is the new technology we have decided to shove down everyone’s throat. Its not going to reduce the amount of time you spend laying out or coding your presentation layer. Its not going to make your job any easier or provide you with any benefit. In fact its going to take longer be harder to troubleshoot and run slower.
>>>>>From a line of business point of view WPF isn’t WOW its WTF
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>>>>Brian, I just don't draw the same conclusions you do. If my new car came with a 20 year old technology engine, I would be unhappy. I don't care that it still goes down the road at the same speeds, I expect it to have the ability to utilize the latest technology of compensating for altitude, temperature and other variables.
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>>>>Putting this back into context of software, I can duplicate an application in WPF or windows in about the same amount of time if I don't care about the fancy stuff. With VS2010, I can drag controls onto the form and set properties and have a great form that doesn't take any longer to do. And then I get the benefit of knowing if I or the client ever want to do something extra the technology is there for me underneath. The performance is better by the way and that is a virtue of the way the graphics are drawn and the video card dynamics.
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>>>>I don't think everyone is missing the point at all, I think they are trying to make the point that you can move to the new technology without investing time in learning how to be a graphic designer. Ignore all that if you wish, but at least you haven't given your client a technology that will not have future support.
>>>>Tim
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>>>OK. So I have a SQL database that has data I want to show in a grid along with several stored procedures I need to run and get results from.
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>>>In ASP.NET I create an SQLDataSource for my grid and make any formatting changes to columns I want. I create SQLCommand objects to handle my stored procedure calls when needed. I do this from the ASPX and the vb editors. Done. Easy. All built in.
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>>>How do I do that in Silverlight or WPF?