Plateforme Level Extreme
Abonnement
Profil corporatif
Produits & Services
Support
Légal
English
Illegal aliens
Message
De
31/05/2010 15:41:10
 
 
À
31/05/2010 14:39:39
Information générale
Forum:
Politics
Catégorie:
Immigration
Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
01466656
Message ID:
01466672
Vues:
41
>>>>My son heard on the radio that in the United States they want to declare it a criminal act, for an alien to be in the United States without documentation, or something of the sort. He asked: "Wasn't it a criminal act, already?" To the best of my knowledge, I answered that I assume that aliens can be thrown out of the country for being there without a permit, but that they can't be otherwise prosecuted and thrown into prison. Is the news he heard correct? Is this my understanding of the situation correct?
>>>>
>>>>My son heard this news in Spanish; would the word "felony" be used in English?
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>
>>>>Hilmar.
>>>
>>>Maybe there's some confusion between 'illegal' and 'criminal'. According to this link entering illegally is a crime, being in the country illegally is not : http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57266
>>
>>Really does seem to be a distinction without a difference if you are in the country illegally because you entered illegally.
>Overstaying or otherwise violating the terms of a visa (working on a tourist visa etc) would be the only circumstance I could think of where one might not be guilty of a crime. Otherwise, having entered illegally one has committed a crime.
>
>Doesn't seem to be any proof (or even claim) that he did enter illegally?

However if one is in the country illegally then I believe the burden of proof should be on the individual as to how he came to be *in* the country. It would not be an unfair presumption that at some point he entered and therefore ...

But I would hope the judge's reasoning is that he is interpreting the law strictly as written and that is good in that it points out how sloppy "lawmakers" are when writing laws to begin with and not reasoning their logical conclusions.

But if I suddenly were arrested by German police and they found I was not in Germany legally I don't think they would assume I had somehow spontaneously generated in Germany but there would be a presumption that at some point I "entered" Germany. <g>

As part of such absurdity, I find it amusing when a Mexican national in the US illegally is convicted of a capital crime in Texas and then argues against the death penalty on the grounds that they don't have one in Mexico. ( "Sure I killed my parents but I plead for mercy as I am an orphan ..." )


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
Précédent
Suivant
Répondre
Fil
Voir

Click here to load this message in the networking platform