And I don't understand why you'd elect to insert folksy witticisms into a discussion you really don't know anything about.That's similar to what Rodney Dangerfield once said: "Most of the arguments to which I am party fall somewhat short of being impressive, owing to the fact that neither I nor my opponent knows what we are talking about."
The last word is yours. Enjoy.In that case the last word goes to Publius Cornelius: “More faults are often committed while we are trying to oblige than while we are giving offense.”
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1