You think that the event tracking I showed you from the debugger, showing the INITs before the LOAD is not sufficient? I mean, the only reason I found out about this is because the SET statements in the LOAD of the form had not happened yet, so stuff appeared on my form (the values from assignments) ... which tells me that it is indeed acting as if the INITs precede the LOAD.

>>Yes indeed, I am using MemberClass for Pages ... but then, I have been doing that for some time in other forms, without this result.
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>>The one difference -- previously the PageFrame was added directly to the form, this time, the PageFrame is an object contained in a class based on a form (is that stated clearly?)
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>>Jim
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>Have you confirmed the incorrect event sequence?