>Thanks for that. I'll give it a go.

In some cases perhaps, but our experience with Yemenis released in the last couple of years has not been good.

There is a point to be made in the article Tracy cited which I just reread more carefully. If the problem in releasing some "cleared" detainees is there is no country that will take them, that requires some kind of resolution, and I have to commend the Massachusetts towns that made what at first I thought was a fuzzy headed gesture.

But the "No more Guantanamos" thing is just silly. There are definitely some people we must either hold or kill. Since it's too late for the latter ( see aforementioned 5 second rule ), that's what Gitmo (and some other places) should be for.

If some are there who shouldn't be, that should be corrected.

I don't want an innocent man in Pelican Bay, but I sure want Pelican Bay ( our most secure domestic prison )

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>>Oh, and before I forget, have you read Gerald Seymour's The Journeyman Tailor Pretty good stuff - LeCarre-ish - and reasonably balanced. ( fiction )
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>>>Happy to condemn Long Kesh and its hopelessness as a method of controlling terror anytime Charles. In fact take my condemnation of the UKs role in the general "war" on terror that as read anytime I say anything about the good ole USA.
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>>>>Better to be in Long Kesh? <s> (at least the weather is good in Cuba)
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>>>>>I'm sure the US Constitution give the inmates of Guantanamo a warm fuzzy glow at night. Its always good to know you're banged up without recourse to due process by the "most protected".
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>>>>>>It may not be true any longer, but in college I learned that the U.S. has the most laws protecting its citizens (regulating) of any country in the world. Also, while many other countries have constitutions that read as though every citizen is free and have a Bill of Rights (or an equivalent), they are at the pleasure of their government (created by and can be modified or taken away by). Only the U.S. has individual rights declared as unalienable rights that cannot be violated by the federal or state government and exist separate and apart from the government. The problem to me is, many of those laws meant to supposedly protect its citizens also incur undue hardship and taken to the extreme can violate the rights of others.
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>>>>>>>I wonder if there are any stats on how many laws there are in the USA compared to other countries.
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>>>>>>>>http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38051
>>>>>>>>Something's happened to America, and it isn't good. It's become easier to get into trouble. We've become a nation of a million rules. Not the kind of bottom-up rules that people generate through voluntary associations. Those are fine. I mean imposed, top-down rules formed in the brains of meddling bureaucrats who think they know better than we how to manage our lives.
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>>>>>>>>Cross them, and we are in trouble.
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>>>>>>>>The National Marine Fishery Service (NMFS) received an anonymous fax that a seafood shipment to Alabama from David McNab contained "undersized lobster tails" and was improperly packed in clear plastic bags, rather than the cardboard boxes allegedly required under Honduran law. When the $4 million shipment arrived, NMFS agents seized it. McNab served eight years in prison, even though the Honduran government informed the court that the regulation requiring cardboard boxes had been repealed.
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>>>>>>>>How about this one? Four kindergartners -- yes, 5-year-old boys -- played cops and robbers at Wilson Elementary in New Jersey. One yelled: "Boom! I have a bazooka, and I want to shoot you." He did not, of course, have a bazooka. Nevertheless, all four boys were suspended from school for three days for "making threats," a violation of their school district's zero-tolerance policy. School Principal Georgia Baumann said, "We cannot take any of these statements in a light manner." District Superintendent William Bauer said: "This is a no-tolerance policy. We're very firm on weapons and threats."
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>>>>>>>>Give me a break.
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>>>>>>>>Here's another: Ansche Hedgepeth, 12, committed this heinous crime: She left school in Washington, D.C., entered a Metrorail station to head home and ate a French fry. An undercover officer arrested her, confiscating her jacket, backpack and shoelaces. She was handcuffed and taken to the Juvenile Processing Center. Only after three hours in custody was the 12-year-old released into her mother's custody. The chief of Metro Transit Police said: "We really do believe in zero-tolerance. Anyone taken into custody has to be handcuffed for officer safety." She was sentenced to community service and now carries an arrest record. Washington's Metro has since rescinded its zero-tolerance policy.
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>>>>>>>>Keith John Sampson, a student-employee at Indiana-Purdue University Indianapolis, had the temerity to read "Notre Dame Versus the Klan: How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Ku Klux Klan" during breaks on the job. One student complained because the book's cover depicted the Klan. The university then found Sampson guilty of racial harassment! Thankfully, a great organization, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), came to his defense and got his school record cleared.
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>>>>>>>>Palo Alto, Calif., ordered Kay Leibrand, a grandmother, to lower her carefully trimmed hedges. Leibrand argued that no one's vision was obstructed and asked the code officer to take a look. He refused. Then the city dispatched two police officers. They arrested her, loaded her into a patrol car in front of her neighbors and hauled her down to the station.
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>>>>>>>>In 2001, honor student Lindsay Brown parked her car in the wrong spot at her high school. A county police officer looked inside and saw a kitchen knife -- a butter knife with a rounded tip. Because Lindsay was on school property, she had violated the zero-tolerance policy for knives. She was arrested, handcuffed and hauled off to county jail where she spent nine hours on a felony weapons possession charge. School Principal Fred Bode told a local paper, "A weapon is a weapon."
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>>>>>>>>Congress creates, on average, one new crime every week. Federal agencies create thousands more -- so many, in fact that the Congressional Research Service itself said that merely counting them would be impossible.
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>>>>>>>>This is a bad trend. As Lao Tsu said, "The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be.