>>It's a management failure, which was sort of my point. And I got a little secret for you (come closer, I don't want the word to get out)....management sometimes gives orders to I.T. But it's just our little secret. So shhhhhh...... :)

Seems obvious enough that if IT doesn't have the authority to make the manager behave a certain way, it needs to convince the manager and/or arrange a corporate policy decreed from on high. If IT couldn't mount a compelling/coherent argument or wasn't sufficiently attuned to its internal customers to know they'd started handling their own needs or if the manager is just stubborn, it's still a management/IT story. Not an argument against Kittyhawk.

Besides, I thought it was supposed to be Liberals who try to block things they don't like? ;-)

>>On Google App inventor, I'll acknowledge I haven't used it...

Nor have I. I've ordered an android phone, though.

>>Regarding Kittyhawk, I'll dig deeper into my increasingly curmudgeon viewpoint...

Doesn't really matter what we think. If the users like it, they'll use it and people who try to block them will make themselves irrelevant.

>>There's nothing new under the sun here. I'm old enough to remember the application called Genifer from the late 1980's... typically the user/bz requirements called for some elbow grease that only a programmer could actually provide.

I suppose that Kittyhawk could be Genifer with wpf if that's what you're implying. At this stage, nothing would surprise me in IT. Except possibly a new Apple iPad running Windows 7. ;-)

>>My reactions aren't rooted in a secret fear of being "democratized", "marginalized", "commoditized" (is that a word?) - I'm just a bit surprised that you seem to be buying into this.

Not sure where all this is coming from. MJ made some curious comments regarding VFP. Then self-proclaimed immorts popped up spouting FUD nonsense. I still don't get why they got all worked up about Kittyhawk when Google is gearing up to familiarize the next generation with DIY.