>Hello!
>so i tried your Commands an i can compile an go thru my fields but not exactly sure what im looking for cause my tables etc still exsist, but concerning back-ups. I was going thru them. and in the 3 copies where i made a major overhaul to that form gets the error and the ones before those changes work. I dont kno if thats good or bad since i am 100% sure that my changes worked before an now they dont so im wondering if the error is in the form or somewhere else

Ken,

When you get the problem like you're getting, the chances are that you will not be able to solve it :( Did you try deleting record 16 as Dragan suggested, packing the form (as a table) and then to open it again for modifications?