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Obama Hosts Dinner For Muslims
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16/08/2010 07:24:06
 
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>>>>>>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38698500/ns/politics-white_house/
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>>>>>>>How about a dinner for the families of the 3000 Americans who died on 9/11?
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>>>>>>Those aren't Obamas people. Islam is.
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>>>>>>He continues to show his true colors (I said colors - oh well I've been declared racist enough I don't care).
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>>>>>>He is a traitor and a liar that needs to be eliminated.
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>>>>>Beep Beep
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>>>>>Dept of Homeland Security alert.
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>>>>>Of course you're right. What the US really need is internal religious conflict. Its worked so well for so many other countries.
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>>>>Islam brought the fight to us. What's new?
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>>>Actually 19 or 20 Islamic terrorists brought the fight to us. What is sometimes forgotten now is that Al Qaeda was a dimly understood and loosely organized group 15 years ago. You probably already know the English translation of Al Qaeda is "the database." (Hmmm). It meant a closely guarded secret of those who could be trusted. A little medieval? Oh yeah. But the fact is they remained a fringe element of Islam and even of terror. The first many of us in the west ever heard of them was the foiled border crossing in the northwest just before Y2K. And even then we thought the attacks were random terrorist attacks, not coordinated.
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>>Oh. I forgot how peaceful and tolerant Islam has been aside from those misunderstood boys.
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>Show me where I have ever defended the terrorists. They may have thought they were well intentioned but I am not disappointed that they are dead. What I have said -- consistently, over and over -- is that the terrorist stain should not be extended to all Muslims. Any more than the actions of Timothy McVeigh should be projected to you or me, for example.

I don't disagree with your separating the terrorists from the religious majority. I do think your numbers are (way) off though:

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/65537
http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/
http://www.bt.com.bn/classification/opinion/2007/05/28/how_many_terrorists_are_there
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Commentary/2006/10/Counting-Terrorists-More-or-Less-a-Distraction
http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

In 2006, there were 14,000 known acts of terrorism which killed 20,000.

Those articles are widely differing but some contain actual facts and numbers of know terrorist acts and members. Worth the read if you truly want to face the facts. Anyone who has been watching the world or who was unfortunate enough to have to pay attention (and have access to intelligence reports) has know for years (and years) how prevalent terrorism is. 9/11 just brought it to the awareness of Americans who live in a bubble of false security. Bill and others may go to the extreme in considering too many part of a terrorist organization (at least as enemies of the state), but you always seem to go too far in the opposite direction as well. Reality is most likely somewhere in between, but closer to Bill's estimate than yours....
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