>Neither has any effect.
>
>Good idea, though.

Just to be sure your assumptions are correct,
log the state of the RecordSource cursor by scanning or counting and resetting to recno before log.



>>>Let me phrase the question differently.
>>>
>>>I have a grid. The RecordSource has 16 records and is unfiltered. The record pointer is on the first record. There are a number of columns. The controlsources are all correct, and refer to fields in the grid.
>>>
>>>But no records show. When this happens, I am not able to do anything to make any records show either (and would welcome suggestions)
>>>
>>>And this happens sporadically and inconsistently.
>>>
>>>Guesses?
>>>
>>Have you tried
>>
>>thisform.Draw()
>>
>>or
>>
>>thisform.cls()