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>>>>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/12/pat-tillmans-parents-accu_n_202692.html
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>>>>Key word: fratricide.
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>>>>Why? Again, I have no idea.
>>>
>>>Fratricide is the killing of a brother. Seems to fit "friendly fire" death. It certainly doesn't imply non-accidental.
>>>
>>>I'd say there is a pretty compelling evidence Tillman was killed by friendly fire. That happens. And I don't think I'd be very surprised that the Army covered it up. There is a long tradition in war-time of spinning that kind of stuff in a way that is considered favorable to advancing the mission. And if the spin holds, a Pat Tillman with a Silver Star dying a hero better advances the cause he enlisted to advance than a terrible tragedy in the chaos of battle. WWII is rife with incidents of friendly fire death that was never reported as such for 50 years. It was considered at the time that to do so would serve no purpose - though undoubtedly it effected those responsible and those who commanded those responsible very deeply.
>>>
>>>But from the outrage involved I had to keep to digging to see if someone was implying he was deliberately murdered (as your "shot point blank" implies) and I'm not finding those implications. Are there any that you know of and if so what possible motive is proposed?
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>>I don't know. But now I am genuinely curious.
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>>Even friendly fire (wow, there is a euphemism even by military standards) would not explain his widely reported last words, "I'm Pat f*****g Tillman." You probably wouldn't say that in the midst of a firefight right before being accidentally shot, would you?
>>
>>OK, we have a little research project here.
>
>You may have gotten some of your information here:
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19984732/
>http://motherjones.com/media/2010/09/pat-tillmans-war
>http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-18/pat-tillman-documentary-jane-fonda-and-others-on-nfl-players-legacy/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1

Thanks for the jump start ;-) And I was serious about you having serious potential as an ombudsman. I read the NY Times guy every Sunday, who often criticizes the Times's own coverage, and don't think he is any better than you when it comes to fact checking, independent thinking, and fearlessness.
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