30 events is alot. But then, there are lots more in your area of teh country. Closest place to SLC is Boise. They have a good community there, but it's a small city. Next is Las Vegas. Almost no community there.

>I like Viv and I think he'd make a great MVP; however, you're talking from the wrong end again. MVP is not about participation on the UT (which is not even a blip on MS' radar)MVP is based on community contributions, writing, speaking, mentoring, evangalism, user group, MS forum activity etc. I don't know what Viv does in that regard, but that's what it takes. Craig spoke at 10 events, ogranized code camps, etc. I speak at about 30 events per year, write for code magazine, co-authored a book with 53 other MVPs, run a user group, and participate at almost all local function in some way, shape or form. That is what it takes, not answering some newbies question here on the thread.
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