>thanks rick, deleting the line of code stopped the error. now i get a hangup but a gpf directly after the hangup? the docs actually say the ras stuff is NT only, should this be working on win98?

Not sure. Supposedly the RAS structures and functions are supposed to
work the same, but it doesn't appear they do.

If you pass an invalid handle to RASHangup it may blow up (doesn't
in NT - just returns .f.)