>Let me simplify the thing; I think we can fairly safely agree that modern day organized religion has very little to do with being religious. That’s leaves God. One believes and another does not believe. One believes in God and another in no-God. Both don't know either way. Both are believers
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>No, both are not believers, only the former.
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>I don't believe in God - it does not follow that I'm part of "some other" belief system.

Kevin,
Your belief in evidence and rationality... is irrational?

Perhaps you could explain Jos case better than he can.

Besides, if I read your argument correctly, all you are saying is "There is no evidence"