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10/01/2011 20:06:04
 
 
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>Going somewhat OT, the early federal counts against the suspect are listed here: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2011/01/indictment-of-jared-lee-loughner-for-murders-attempt-to-kill-rep-gabby-giffords.php?page=3
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>I was not previously aware that there are penalties for attempted assassination of a member of Congress ( http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/18/351 ), and for killing or attempted killing of an Officer and Employee of the United States. My first thought would have been there should be no difference from any other premeditated murder (or attempt). On reflection, it makes a certain sense that a legal system would take special pains to safeguard its own bastions; whether that is hubris is open to debate.
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>Do you know if these charges replace, or are in addition to, other charges that may be applicable to "regular" murder or attempted murder?
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>Would those other charges be federal, or state? IIRC some states have different penalties for murder than others ( e.g. the death penalty ).

I think it was an attempt to add a federal charge, as murder or attempted murder is otherwise a state charge. And since the Feds have the death penalty, there is additional leverage in being able to say the feds will drop that charge ( or take death off the table ) if one pleads out to the state charge.

It also gives you another shot at the guy if the locals somehow blow the state prosecution.

I think it applies to killing an immigration or customs officer,. national park ranger etc as well as congresspeople etc.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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