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He won't give consent?
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25/01/2011 07:14:40
 
 
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Remember Alger Hiss and Kim Philby? There were vetting procedures in place, but elite opinion of the time deemed each of them "one of us" and therefore exempt. I would have been impolite and a demonstration of churlishness on the part of the doubter.

It is part of the Vision of the Annointed.


>>>I guess that Obama's family had great fortune telling skills. Imagine, having your son born in Africa but being prescient enough to convince authorities in Hawaii to register his birth there AND run an ad in two Hawaii newspapers so 40 years later when he runs for President he will appear to be born in the U.S. I wish my parents were that smart: they could've put in an order to buy Microsoft stock 30 years before MS existed, and I'd be rich today.
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>>>I'll tell you what's great fortune-telling skills....Hawaii governor Neil Abercrombie vowing to demonstrate that Obama was born in Hawaii, before he knew he could produce the official birth certificate....kind of like an attorney asking for immunity before knowing what's going to be said!!!
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>>But doesn't Abercrombie say he knew the family at the time Barack was born?
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>No, he said he knew the family when Obama was a child.
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>I don't think he's not a U.S. citizen, and the conspiracy theory is nonsense. However, we expect full disclosure and we deserve it of our public servants. This is only an issue because he is President of the United States. Frankly, privacy laws take effect otherwise, but really, when it comes to public service, all of that should be available to the public.
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>Just put it all to rest and provide not a certificate of live birth which is a document created on the fly based on a clerk's verification of birth, but the original live birth records (all of them - including his college and student loan and grant records) to the public - this is the highest office in our country and the requirements are clear and qualifications should be verified - it doesn't matter what his political party is or whether or not you support his policies.
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>It amazes me that folks consider it unreasonable to expect that of the highest office of this land. What country is this? How we have traveled backwards in time to a country where the government can and does get away with anything without disclosure amazes me. Why is not expect anymore? Anyone who doesn't expect it to be provided is no better than the other name callers - it has nothing to do with political parties - in fact they are worse: they're sheeple.
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>Here's what's never been provided:
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>(1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.
>2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
>3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
>4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
>5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
>6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
>7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
>Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
>9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
>10) Columbia College records — not released
>11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
>12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
>13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
>14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
>15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
>16) Obama’s medical records — not released
>17) Obama’s passport records — not released
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>What concerns me now is the stories and statements by Hawaiin officials who previously claimed that the certificate was created based on the original full birth certificate that they swore they saw with their own eyes. Now only a log is available? Amazing.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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