Gentlemen:

Another idea. Check out the Windows World Open (www.wwopen.com I think) sponsored by MS. It's an annual contest for the best Windows application and is open to any functional Windows app.

>ok ken i got a good idea. why not ask the Advisor to come up with contests involving different programming enviroments. Example: data, gui, internet, etc... Then some of the VFP guys can go walk the walk.

Start writing BOOKS and ARTICLES demonstrating OOP,OOSE,OOAD, and preactical solutions using VFP and get them published by non-VFP publishers!! Then we get valid VFP solutions/examples into the hands of CIOs and IT managers who only read the general purpose mags!!!