No, using VFP like they did 15 or 20 years is oldster imo. And no, it doesn't matter even if M$ finds and destroys every copy of every VFP CD/DVD they can find. It will not kill it or even slow new development or ways of using it! Why? Because of the VFP runtimes. I can get a copy of ActiveVFP from CodePlex, write a complete vfp web app using nothing more than notepad and existing code/examples, and host it on the cloud at GoDaddy. And guess what? I never had to spend a dime on the original VFP to do it! And yes, it's legal. (And before you say you don't know anyone that develops that way, just look at all the PHP developers - they code in nothing but text.)

(call me Terry Thurber with an edge!)

>I guess I just found it amusing that you considered their development or planned delivery/sale method used to be an "oldster mindset" when some would consider holding on to a known end of life cycle product like VFP in any of its incarnations including the open source additions to be an example of the "oldster mindset." It won't be that much longer until VFP9 is not even available for purchase... Can you still purchase it from MSFT or is it only available now from retailers who still have some in stock? Is MSFT still packaging it? I'm not saying it isn't a great tool and serves a purpose, just that it isn't one of the "younger products" and not typically used by a "young mindset" so I found your comments referring to the other developers working on a commercial product to fall into the "oldster mindset" category simply because it was "commercial" amusing. :o)