Yes the cheerleaders goosestepped to .NET like nice little boys and girls. The smart have gone to open source or try to do new things with old solid products like foxpro. Yes the developers of yesteryear will try to claim some sort of lost glory by thinking they're somehow hip by using the latest drivel from Microsoft Katchup inc. ( is this Terryesque enough for you yet??) but they'll now be small flies on the vast manure of wannabees. You see in the fox world the little folk could/can make a difference whereas your old FOX-to-.NET convertees are neither hip nor relevant. Oh well..

>The problem with the three products listed below is primarily three letters : VFP.

>I was closely enough involved over the course of 15 years with what was certainly one of the best commercial Fox frameworks and know enough of the other prominent tool vendors to say that even at its peak the Fox community was terrible at seeing the value of or being willing to spend money for 3rd party tools. People did not make anywhere near the kind of money writing tools that they could just using their skills to write apps. So when app work became their primary focus and the market moved away from VFP, they left - or at least stopped putting effort into VFP. ( folks like Doug and Rick Schummer are part of a core of remarkable exceptions but again, I don't think the remaining Fox developers as a group have a clue about how very lucky they are to have them )

>I think it is one of the reasons why so many who had the most to lose by changing platforms as they represented some of the most experienced and talented VFP developers jumped ship starting in 1998-99. As the VFP community started to dwindle, so did the median skill-set.

>The potential market for the 3 products listed below was, I would guess, less than 10% of the potential market we had in 1999 for Visual Fox Express, and would only really appeal to those who wanted to cling to VFP in some hybridized fashion and join a "community" in the dozens. I just don't see where it was a sustainable model.

>I loved the Fox and was there for all the highpoints and for an amazing community of wildly talented people ( and some truly increidble boneheads)- but that has pretty much dispersed now and I don't think the numbers are there to recapture the magic.