I'm using Visual Maxframe and Stonefield so the Autoopentables and Autoclosetables has to be set to .T. or it gets ugly. The Opentables call comes from deep within VMP and I found that it gets called even before Beforeopentables does. And the Autoopentables and Autoclosetables can't be reset at runtime, so the thought that I had was to 'stuff' a nodefault into the Opentables programmatically on its second pass, but I don't know how to do that. Can it be done and do you know how?