What I know about you is you have astonishing software development skills, so maybe I am dead wrong. And you describe it in clear terms, which is a neat trick considering you are writing in a second language. Whenever I see something you have written, I read it. You are terrific. (Once I asked someone with MS connections why the heck they haven't hired you and was told "They can't afford him" LOL)

It's just that I have fallen under the spell of a couple of advocates of smallball, if you will. In one case it was MVVM, in the other MVC. They stepped through some demos that made me think what at first seems like overengineering in fact makes things easier in the long run.

Re WPF, we are on the same page, although I have never expressed it quite that vividly ;-) Something about it has always just rubbed me wrong. But you're right, it has supplanted WinForms. And the whole parade of desktop apps, my comfort zone, seems to have moved on down the road.


>You should know by now, Mike - I like things simple. Overengineered stuff has little room in my toolbox. If a technology takes a long time to understand just the concepts and implementation, it's not really an improvement. Abstraction can happen on many different levels and MVVM is just one way this can be done. I'm not sure that is necessarily a better one.
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>I still dislike WPF - it's a horribly complicated architecture full of inconsistencies, but it is clear that that's where we are heading for the future given that WinForms is now a complete dead end. I think especially for business apps it's so much more complicated to build a straight LOB front end than it was for WinForms both from a design and code perspective. In my view that's simply not an improvement but jacking off with technology ;-)
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>>That is a very interesting statement about MVVM. Not meaning it's unusual, because I have heard variations many times from others as well about architectures. Too much room between me and my code. I'm just surprised to hear it from you.
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>>>No not using Prism, although I'm getting ready to start work on a WPF app and I might check it out. I think most of the MVVM schemes are way too complex and they don't really make things easier...
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>>>NuGet - yup just published a bunch of stuff on NuGet (West Wind Web Toolkit stuff which includes all the general purpose utility tools too as a separate NuGet package).
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>>>NuGet is one of the nicer things Microsoft has done in a while... Really sweet to be able to just dump components into a project off the Web...
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>>>>Thanks, Rick. Can't find a way to do it with CodeRush either.
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>>>>I got search and replace to work pretty well in cloning a project ( Prism module ) once I remembered to do case sensitive searches (c#) for names and realized it wasn't going to actually rename the files.
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>>>>Once I get this prism module stuff working the way I want it i'm going to give some serious thought to templating it.
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>>>>I'm also trying to figure out some good ways to use Feature Extension and Instant Feature Builder as Karl Shifflett does in In the Box.
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>>>>Have you used that or NuGet? ( The more I do the Prism stuff the more I am looking for some RAD shortcuts.)
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>>>>>Oh how I wish. Neither Visual Studio nor Refactor! refactorings support renaming namespaces.
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>>>>>I think there are issues on how these tools can track changes once the namespace actually changes. Making replacements afterwards breaks the Code model in memory. Just a guess, but I'm sure it's occurred to the Refactor! folks before - it if it was more easily doable it could be done.
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>>>>>However, I typically use a search and replace in files and that works fairly well and is quick..
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>>>>>>Bringing in stuff from other people's Prism samples, for example and need to reset namespaces.
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>>>>>>VS 2010 - seem to remember there is a clever way to change the namespace on a lot of files at once ( yeah, I know I can do a global search and replace but I thought there might be one place I can sync namespaces - or a 3rd party goody that does it )