Lianja (http://www.lianja.com) promises to be the killer developer system for which we have all been waiting.

-- VFP compatible
-- programmable in Recital Script, VFP, Python, Javascript (they obviously dream of Abstract Syntax Trees <s>)
-- hit DBF's (they are a project within Recital, which has been doing xBase forever) or SQL
-- WebClient automatically generated, runnable on any platform, any device

There are many questions to be answered, of course:

-- will it really do all that?
-- will they be responsive to developer needs?
-- will the cost be feasible for both small custom development shops and ISVs with broad deployment?

If they deliver, I can't imagine a much better tool to move from today into the future.

If they don't deliver, well, what ya gonna do?

As Recital, they have a history of stability, which I think mitigates the "do you really want to put your future in a company that might go away" factor. As their only modern product, I think the "what happens when they make the product go away because middle managers want to make their bonuses" also becomes moot.

Beta 2 will be available in a couple of weeks, from what I have been told by Barry Mavin, who is CEO and Chief Software Architect (and has been so for at least the last 13 years -- they do have stability).

The purpose of this forum is primarily to inform UT users of what's going on with this potentially important product. It also have a purpose in providing a place for discussion when Lianja forum is closed (don't ask: they just don't understand community, even when it's explained to them).

Hank