Pyjamas + Dabo would give a great deal of freedom to get things exactly right. Whether the resources can be gathered to make it happen will be a question until the resources are gathered. It's Plan A in the sense that if given an equal opportunity to choose either, I would choose to control my own destiny. I'm working on it.

Lianja will happen. Whether it will happen in a way that would give me (and the organizations I support) what we need will be a question until it happens.

It's really clear in my mind. <s>

Hank

>In your reply to Thomas I get the impression pyjamas is plan "A". Now I'm confused :(
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>>That's plan A. <s> Lianja is a plan B that's worth putting time into.
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>>>>Lianja (http://www.lianja.com) promises to be the killer developer system for which we have all been waiting.
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>>>>-- VFP compatible
>>>>-- programmable in Recital Script, VFP, Python, Javascript (they obviously dream of Abstract Syntax Trees <s>)
>>>>-- hit DBF's (they are a project within Recital, which has been doing xBase forever) or SQL
>>>>-- WebClient automatically generated, runnable on any platform, any device
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>>>>There are many questions to be answered, of course:
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>>>>-- will it really do all that?
>>>>-- will they be responsive to developer needs?
>>>>-- will the cost be feasible for both small custom development shops and ISVs with broad deployment?
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>>>>If they deliver, I can't imagine a much better tool to move from today into the future.
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>>>>If they don't deliver, well, what ya gonna do?
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>>>>As Recital, they have a history of stability, which I think mitigates the "do you really want to put your future in a company that might go away" factor. As their only modern product, I think the "what happens when they make the product go away because middle managers want to make their bonuses" also becomes moot.
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>>>>Beta 2 will be available in a couple of weeks, from what I have been told by Barry Mavin, who is CEO and Chief Software Architect (and has been so for at least the last 13 years -- they do have stability).
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>>>>The purpose of this forum is primarily to inform UT users of what's going on with this potentially important product. It also have a purpose in providing a place for discussion when Lianja forum is closed (don't ask: they just don't understand community, even when it's explained to them).
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>>>>Hank
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>>>What happended to Dabo?