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MS to Open Source VB6
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22/05/2011 08:28:16
 
 
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Visual FoxPro
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>>>>http://reddevnews.com/articles/2011/05/19/microsoft-to-open-source-vb6.aspx
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>>>If these jackasses at microsoft really knew anything they would open source VB6 and VFP. They already killed the products and along with that, microsoft developer loyalty from most of those developers. The only way to fix that would be to open source them. These dipsh*ts like to float rumors around to see what people will say only to retract everything (a$$wipe$!!!).
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>>I don't think open-sourcing VFP would do diddly for the VFP community. ISTR John Koziol remarking here some time ago that important parts of the VFP code base are written in spaghetti-C and that only a chosen few at MS (maybe Calvin etc.) would dare to even consider modifying it.
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>>Even if full source was available, I wouldn't like to bet that anyone could get it to compile and run without Microsoft's exact build environment and compilers.
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>>Assuming the code was open-sourced, the effort required to create a major update (e.g. move to 64-bit) would be much larger than that of upgrading from, say, VFP8 to VFP9. A team with serious C/C++ chops would need to be assembled and would have to learn the existing code base before contemplating any changes. I don't see enough potential return to pay the team, or motivate any volunteers.
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>>If there were no alternatives to VFP, that might be different. But there are lots, many of them already open-source and well-established.
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>>About the only significant result I could see happening would be other open- (or closed-) source projects cherry-picking the code base for ideas (Rushmore etc.). But, that wouldn't benefit the VFP community. So, there's some truth to MS's argument they'd be giving away "crown jewels", and with little or no benefit to the community.
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>It would show that they're "on-board" the open-source tide and that they realize their business plan is secondary to creating tools that developers want and need. Just the fact that we're discussing what's good for Microsoft as opposed to developers is ridiculous imo.
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>And who's to say smart developers couldn't do something with the raw source? Good god, if we were to stop trying stuff because it might be too hard nothing would ever get done. I'm sure there are those in the community smart enough to tackle such a beast.
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>Microsoft doesn't get anything at this point. They're in a never-ending game of catch-up with the real players in software development who are all open source.

Let's say that someone has the C / C++ chops to innovate on a VFP open-source code base. Would someone with those skills really put them into innovating VFP ? And if so, for the love of god, why?? The world is not clamoring for more VFP in any market-driven, demographically meaningful sense. It would be like a best-selling author deciding he would publish his next book only in Esperanto.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
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Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

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