>For years, I argued with Walter over his definition of .net and its capabilities. Walter is the Dutch version of Mike Beane.... Talk out yer keester without a shred of eveidence or experience, couch everything in generalities and emotions.... then when you show them the facts, they completely ignore them. You'd be better of trying to teach a pig to sing than to have a constructive dialog with either of them.

If so why are you still having discussions with them ? Do you have masochistic tendencies ?