>>>>>>>>When you wave, only use 1 finger.
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>>>>>>>Whether you agree with or disagree with his policies, the excessive disrespect that is being shown to our President by the right-wing establishment is disappointing. This disrespect has descended to the level of middle school name calling and really shows the ignorance of the Tea Party and their propaganda.
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>>>>>>Thank God that didn't happen when the situation was reversed.
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>>>>>LOL, my thoughts exactly.
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>>>>>http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4NRIl47o8Ng/TStwnE-nu_I/AAAAAAAACTs/qIg2Q8d9Mcs/s1600/death_of_a_president_nogun.jpg
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>>>>Mike, you keep bringing up this movie as though its the flipside of TeaParty shrillness. This is a movie made by an English production company, not a DNC effort. The reaction to the movie -- by (Vince Foster murderer) Hillary Clinton at least -- was profoundly critical ("I think it's despicable. I think it's absolutely outrageous. That anyone would even attempt to profit on such a horrible scenario makes me sick.") . Her reaction (to this foreign made film) runs contrary to the point you try to make with this movie.
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>>>OK, so that was only the low hanging fruit. Are you making the argument that Tea Party shrillness vs. Obama > Liberal shrillness vs. W? If so, you have a very short memory.
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>>Not sure what your 'low hanging fruit' point is, but your reoccuring movie example and Hillary's response (at least) completely contradicts the point that you are trying to make. As for comparative shrillness, the Teaps win hands down. Looking at criticisms leveled at both presidents, i find that Bush-directed criticisms are of a substantive nature... Obama's not so much. The Bush admin outed a CIA agent, started the iraq war debacle, pulled resources from the Afghan effort, authorized the waterboarding and torture of detainees, broke signed international treaties, politicized the DOJ with the firing of US attorneys, the less than stellar response to Katrina, the historic levels of vacationing, etc. There appears to be an adequate amount of valid material one could criticize. Conversely, a good deal of criticism of Obama consists of wacky material. The Birth certificate issue reached critical mass, he's madrassa educated, he hates while people, he's a secret muslim, a manchurian candidate, fema camps, banning fishing, hanging out with terrorists, not a real merkin, telling students to work hard is 'indoctrination', death panels, eager to see women with cancer die, TeaParty secessionist talk, he doesnt think that America is "exceptional". While bailing out corporate capitalist giants like banks, trading firms, and autos -- he's labelled a socialist communist marxist facist government take-over artist. The healthcare bill -- a 'gubmint takeover' -- was written by (as Jake pointed out) the healthcare insurance lobby. There's the gun ban & gun confiscation fears, there is the violence-based Teaparty rhetoric of "We come unarmed this time", "2nd amendment remedies", "time to water the tree of liberty with blood" signs and shirts. No contesto.
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>Was I just called wacky and shrill for pointing out the obvious regarding PPACA? I didn't realize this was unknown.


Quite the contrary. I too thought it was well known. I find it contradictory to the "socialist commi marxist anti-capitalist govt takeover" jargon thats directed at the Kenyan.


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>http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2010/February/24/CPI-health-lobbying.aspx
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>A Center for Public Integrity analysis of Senate lobbying disclosure forms shows that more than 1,750 companies and organizations hired about 4,525 lobbyists — eight for each member of Congress — to influence health reform bills in 2009.
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>The list of companies and organizations that worked to put their imprint on legislation is diverse, ranging from health care interests and advocacy groups to giant corporations, small businesses, American Indian tribes, religious groups, and universities.
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>Among industries, 207 hospitals lined up to lobby, followed by 105 insurance companies and 85 manufacturing companies. Trade, advocacy, and professional organizations trumped them all with 745 registered groups that lobbied on health reform bills, illustrating the common Washington strategy of special interests banding together to pool money and increase their influence.
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>If this was unknown then perhaps it is also not known that the writing didn't stop with the legislation. Once passed, the actual regulations must be written, and the health industries' fingerprints are getting all over those as well.
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>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendell-potter/are-insurers-writing-the_b_857903.html