>There are heaps. Take a look at some of the online Java magazines, or Java->lobby.org.

Of course there are...in Java Magazines. Heck, what else would they write about. I am talking about in the mainstream press - like InfoWorld - PCWeek, etc.

>By your definition, J++ is the *least* mature.<g> So why pick that one? Not >the dreaded "bias", is it?

Because it is a Java Implementation that can succeed - because it is targeted to the Windows Platform. With J++, I would not have to give up Win32.