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Major panel: Drug war failed; legalize marijuana
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11/06/2011 14:17:00
 
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>>>>>Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms...sounds like a southern convienence store....
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>>>>And also things that kill millions of people a year. Unlike pot.
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>>>I think autos kill more than anything else, unless you can buy into the notion that cars don't kill people, idiot drivers do.
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>>I think you just made that up because you hope it is true.
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>>Deaths per year:
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>>Traffic deaths = 32,000
>>http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/01/us-traffic-deaths-idUSTRE7306Y120110401
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>>Tobacco = 400,000+
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>>Pot = 0
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>>But I suppose you think it is just fine and dandy to act like a tough guy against pot but joke about tobacco?
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>>Classy.
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>I am so sorry. You are right, because, after all, you are smarter than everyone else, and grass made you that way...yeah right. Take a read....

http://www.duiattorney.com/news/6977-does-marijuana-impair-driving-ability
"But does marijuana, in fact, adversely effect the ability to drive safely? On this issue, governmental studies are in conflict"

It's pretty much only the inexperienced user that gets affected.

If I had 2000 miles to drive, I'd pretty much go crazy if I didn't have a giant bag of weed to smoke the whole way.




>You must be a lawyer, the way you parse this.... The studies haven't attributed deaths to marinuanna - alone, which might be due to the fact that most people who smoke dope, also drink. There is data on those fatalaties though, and surprisingly, one study is based on data from Memphis, TN.
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>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8041419
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>Abstract
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>BACKGROUND:
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>Driving under the influence of intoxicating drugs other than alcohol may be an important cause of traffic injuries. We used a rapid urine test to identify reckless drivers who were under the influence of cocaine or marijuana.
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>METHODS:
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>We conducted a consecutive-sample study in Memphis, Tennessee, in the summer of 1993. Subjects arrested for reckless driving who were not apparently impaired by alcohol (did not have an odor of alcohol, tested negative on breath analysis, or both) were tested for cocaine and marijuana at the scene of arrest. The results of the drug tests were compared with clinical evaluations of intoxication made at the scene by a police officer.
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>RESULTS:
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>A total of 175 subjects were stopped for reckless driving, and 150 (86 percent) submitted urine samples for drug testing at the scene of arrest. Eighty-eight of the 150 (59 percent) tested positive: 20 (13 percent) for cocaine, 50 (33 percent) for marijuana, and 18 (12 percent) for both drugs. Ninety-four of the 150 tested drivers were clinically considered to be intoxicated, and 80 of them (85 percent) tested positive for cocaine or marijuana. The intoxicated drivers had a broad range of affects and appearances. Nearly half the drivers intoxicated with cocaine performed normally on standard sobriety tests.
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>CONCLUSIONS:
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>Over half of the reckless drivers who were not intoxicated with alcohol were found to be intoxicated with other drugs. Toxicologic testing at the scene is a practical means of identifying drivers under the influence of drugs and is a useful adjunct to standard behavioral sobriety testing.
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>********************************************************************************************************************************
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>Testing on marijuanna is also not up to the level of sophistication as it is with alcohol...
>"However, despite the knowledge about a drug’s potentially lethal effects on driving performance and other concerns that have been acknowledged by some public health officials, policy officials, and constituent groups, drugged driving laws have lagged behind alcohol-related driving legislation, in part because of limitations in the current technology for determining drug levels and resulting impairment. For alcohol, detection of its blood concentration (BAC) is relatively simple, and concentrations greater than 0.08 percent have been shown to impair driving performance; thus, 0.08 percent is the legal limit in this country. But for illicit drugs, there is no agreed-upon limit for which impairment has been reliably demonstrated. Furthermore, determining current drug levels can be difficult, since some drugs linger in the body for a period of days or weeks after initial ingestion."
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