>>the drivers are all sub-contractors so If you have a good one, its all good... if you have a bad one.... Mine won't deliver if its raining or snowing or too cold, they just throw it in the dirt by my driveway....
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>>I've complained many times to no avail.... I hate them...
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>UPS as a company is the worst. Our driver is great, but the company sucks.
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>They have cost me thousands of dollars over the years due to their screw-ups. Don't bother insuring a package, they're not good for it.
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>I ONLY use FedEx now.

What can brown do for you? ;-)

I am always willing to admit my mistakes. If you and John have had such bad experiences with UPS, maybe I have been lucky.