>If you took one of the old timers and let them play with VS they would think they had died and gone to heaven.
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>That's actually debatable. I agree with you that some would - others might find it over-engineered. It's unfortunate that Borland is no longer really around, because they would have kept VS on its toes.

Agreed!

They probably would have made Delphi not suck and it would compete against .NET too.