>>I won't even go that far. Life in prison is no picnic. (As Jeffrey Dahmer found out in fairly short order). It's barbaric. Here is a list of the nations that allow capital punishment. Look at the Death Penalty Permitted section. Is that a list we want to be on?
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>>You're saying life in prison is barbaric???
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>>Re: your list, this is an old and tired (and flawed argument). In many of those countries, people are put to death for crimes other than first-degree murder.
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>>I have concerns about the death penalty when there is any question as to guilt - but where there is ZERO question as to guilt on first-degree murder, such a monster has no claim to his/her life.
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>We disagree. I'm not trying to be right, just pointing out the obvious.
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>I did not say life in prison is barbaric, I said it's no picnic. How would you like to know you can never again walk around a free man, go to a ballgame, run through a forest in the fall? Have more to worry about in the shower than Janet Leigh? I am not defending these people in any way. Capital punishment is just not the answer IMO. For me the paradox has always been: you have done the worst thing anyone can do, you have killed another human being. For this we are going to kill you. That's one degree of separation from Islamic fundamentalism, sans beheadings. (Yet).

Ask the person or persons they killed how their lives are going.