Michel,

I'd like to ask you if you PM'd the person you suspected of this, prior to merging the accounts. I don't mean a PM to Grover ... that wouldn't accomplish much.

I see that you've merged the accounts this evening and it appears that you believe it is Kevin. He told me a few minutes ago that he didn't do it and that he never received a PM from you to "cease and desist". He's a little pi$$ed off about it right now. He said he'd email you.

Here's another question: is there any way that people can spoof IPs? I assume that's your main proof to determine who's accessing both accounts.

~~Bonnie






>I have analyzed your situation in more details since last night. Based on the initial data collected and intel, I predicted exactly what happened since then.
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>First of all, lets review some of the items:
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>1. Your account, well "your" doesn't mean you as "you" doesn't exist. But, the person who created this account on March 18th had something in mind obviously. The person was well informed about the usage of this site and its Terms & Conditions. After years of being on this site, I believe the decision to create a fake identity account was targeting at something.
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>2. I believe I am correct to say that you were not targeting our product but to one or specific members specifically.
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>3. But, in overall, either way, this has damaged and jeopardized the good running of this Web site.
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>4. It is important to know that every time a situation like this happens that I lose money. I do not know if you took time to realize that but what about if it would be your money?
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>5. It is important to know that every time a situation like this happens that members are running away, lower their participation to this site, the same site that you use on a regular basis with your other account (the real one). So, basically, you are not only penalizing us but yourself also.
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>6. I believe my message yesterday was nice enough. I asked to respect the Terms & Conditions of the site and, so far, at least, this has been respected.
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>7. Your real account is used as a monitoring account to look up on the Grover Lipscomb account.
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>8. It is also funny that there is a co relation data in one item in your account to your real account. I do not know if you intentionally did it like that so we can easily find who you really were. This is often known as a tracer. Many individuals doing something sometimes leaves a trace for an unknown reason which I have no idea about. But, IAC, this is not the intel that was used to move up to your main account.
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>9. It is also interesting to note that after your last hit yesterday at 18h02 EDT, that you immediately switched to your real account. Your real account, of course, monitors the Universal Thread forum, which later became aware of the initial message I sent you. I have to say that this was discovered in almost a record time as if it was easily predictable that I would react and create this very politically correct message last night. I think it was also easy for you to know that we would have collected a lot of complaints on your behavior of yesterday and all the trolling that this fake identity account was used for since a few weeks.
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>10. Once your real account became aware of my message, no more login was done with the Grover Lispcomb account. For that, I thank you and I appreciate the fact that you have respected what I asked for. I cannot know, and nobody can't, if you would continue to use back the Grover Lispcomb account. I hope not.
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>11. You also know that in one click, I can merge the Grover Lispcomb account to your real account. If I do that, of course, everyone will know who you really are.
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>12. You should also know that in those extreme situations, based on some previous related situations in the past, in one of them, not involving your person, that I coordinated efforts with the RCMP and FBI to open a case. I did it once and will do it again if the situation escalades. I confirm that this was not related to you. But, I confirm that this is in our Terms & Conditions and if I have no choice, to preserve the good running of this international site, and to avoid losing money, I will do it.
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>An important stat in regards to those situations is that, in most cases, it involves some very highly skilled members. I do not know what triggers that. Maybe it all starts with a simple point that an individual is trying to say that he is right when another says that he is wrong. Or, what about VFP is better than .NET or .NET is better than VFP. But, those situations escalade sometimes, and unfortunately, we end up in those situations.
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>Now, I put a lot of money on this site. To keep it running, I continue to put my own money in it. And, this is where it irritates me. This is a total waste of time for me to read those complaints, try to find a way to calm down the situation and monitor for a few days if things are getting back to normal. This trolling thing, flamming, insults, improper behavior, just to name a few, is really affecting the image of this site. I put efforts, and thanks to some others who helped me recently, to try to get more members and traffic. I do not know if you ever stop and try to think of all the logistic behind this product but this situation did not help.
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>So, following the path of what I already did before, I will simply ask you to reply and apology. Other members have done it before and I believe this is the proper way to do it. Then, you can also do what others have done before and take the lead by letting us know and confirming us that you would like to continue to use the site with one and only one account, thus your real one, and follow our Terms & Conditions. Once done, I will proceed with the merge. IAC, I will merge this account. So, I am offering you the lead on this so we can all appreciate your professionalism in the resolution of this situation.
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>I would like to point that this is an isolated situation. So, I do not think members will see it worst than what it should be. I, for one, would appreciate it and in a matter of a short time, I am pretty sure we will all forget about it.
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>Actually, the only think that was working in your account, which was real, is your email. But, in order to create an account, an email has to be valid. But, of course, once the account created, so far, I do not have implemented a confirmation of change of email, so anyone can adjust there email after. But, in your case you did not so I was able to confirm that your email was valid.
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>I will allow some time on this. But, it will not take long before I proceed with some administration procedures. So, it is up to you to decide to resolve the issue by showing us a high level of professionalism.
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>Thanks