Google is your friend. <s>

For many reasons (not the least of which was the intransigence of the OS team), .Net is a failed experiment. A grand experiment, with very good tooling, and a plethora of libraries. But in terms of a) integrating with the Windows OS (as contrasted with using wrappers), b) apps running everywhere and c) differentiating itself significantly from Java in terms of productivity, I'm not seeing a checkbox in the win column.

Cappuccino is one of the major players in the "build it once and run it anywhere" school. Take a look at 280slides.com, for an example of Cappuccino at work. I dislike the emulation of Cocoa, and like the "high level programming" model (you never touch CSS).

And now Google will own them (but of course not own the open source Cappuccino). And they already have GWT. Where shall the twain meet?

Hank

>You left me in the dust there, Hank ;-) We get used to buzzwords du jour in this business but I drew blanks on 280North, Cappuccino, Objective-J, Cocoa, and OSX. Do I need to give up sleep to stay current these days? ;-)
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>>Interesting side-note: in 8/10, Motorola Mobility bought 280North, the creators/maintainers of the Cappuccino framework (a Javascript-based version, using a language that compiles directly to Javascript, Objective-J) that mimics Objective-C, which is the language for Cocoa programming on OSX.
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>>Leaving aside the general perception by developers that Cocoa programming is idiosyncratically tedious because of what is not done for the developer, it is also true that Cappuccino produces beautiful web applications (e.g., 280slides.com).
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>>And now they will be owned by Google.
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>>The founders of 280North have been silent re: the acquisition.
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>>Hank
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>>>To those who predicted that Android would be sued to death because Google has fewer patents than competitors: Google's recent purchase of what used to be Motorola's mobile devices division includes tens of thousands of relevant patents, including one on the mobile phone itself. ;-)
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>>>Publicly Samsung, HTC and others seem pleased about the purchase rather than dismayed that Google is suddenly a competitor. Presumably this is because they are confident that they can continue to compete using the quality of their devices. Others point to Apple who has made gazillions using this model from day 1 for mobile devices or Microsoft's relationship with Nokia that seemed to cause a lot more concern than Google's purchase.