>>I've noticed that your particular style involves conviently snipping what I write and then deliberetly missteating it. Claiming "abolition of personal property" as a straw man is rich, especially considering your previous use and reuse (see below) of what I already pointed out as the ultimate straw man the "wild west".

Really? Here's a direct quote from your last post:

JS>>"The theory of Communism may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property" - Guess who?

I wonder why you posted that, if not as a straw man?

As for the rest: you declare that traffic lights are protective but that compulsory super is confiscation of property. Then you insist that your definitions justify themselves. I say that both are protective and that the benefit from sacrificing some rights/property at traffic lights/supporting retirees will not end civilization or usher in Communism, which are the two specters YOU raised.

>>Sounds great. Why stop at retirement and health care? What about homes, doesn't everyone need a home? How about cars? and Tvs and cell phones are becomming pretty necessary in the modern world. I say we create compulsory schemes for all that way everyone will get everything and future generations will love us.

More straw men. I raised a successful real-life scheme. In response you talk about confiscations, abolition of property rights and lots of other imaginary stuff that apparently overwhelms what is happening with my example in real life. Have you checked the effect of the Aussie scheme on their stock market? Hint: it's made them better and stronger. But whatever.

>>If you think that generations prior to mine left the world better then you either have no idea how young I am or have a rose covered view of the world. The boomers inherited a booming post-war nation and have so thouroughly screwed it up that it'll take decades to unwind the debt, regulatory hell and complete lack of responsibility they instilled in their zombie children. That's only if they are defeated. Since they're retiring and no one votes like a senior getting a government check I hold little hope for the future of this nation.

I think that's a slightly more colorful rendition of the point I tried to make.

>>That the rest of the west (and soon the east) is collapsing into a gluttonous spending induced sinkhole seems to have our attention for now, but given the rise of ADHD I'm guessing we'll ignore the obvious and happily follow Ireland, Greece, Portugal and soon to be Italy, Spain, etc right off the cliff.

As least you'll still have your principles- as you drop, you can proclaim that you adhered to the truth that the market is best, you never bowed down to Commie thinking like those Aussies so who cares if their managed funds are now comparable to those other Socialists in Iceland who kept their own oil rather than privatising it.