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17/11/2011 19:07:27
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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>What can I say? Jefferson approved of scaling taxation according to wealth- and even waiving it altogether for poorer citizens. Can you not engage that point at all?

I have engaged your point by citing his own words.

>Nits about consumption tax versus income tax do not alter the man's guiding principles,

As opposed to a "nit" it's quite an important difference and key to his beliefs in private property. Jefferson believed that the wealthy could support the "General Government" through taxation on imported articles, which The rich alone use. From those consumption levies, our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canal, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings.

>or the opposite claims made by some wealthy people (not all - see http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec11/millionaires_11-16.html ). Jefferson was of course correct about France and I guess he'd say the same about some places today. Shame nobody paid much attention in France before the poor revolted and arranged jolly sessions for the enjoyment of Madame Defarge.

The French Revolution was an overthrow of a feudal society ruled by a monarchy with the support of an elite aristocracy. The idea behind the movement was to move the country towards individual rights. Of course, the outcome was the Reign of Terror followed by Napoleon. So to draw a parallel to today, I look to the various uprisings in the middle east and notice that we're witnessing the very repeat of French history. Namely, ideallic movements overthrowing dictators only to be replaced by new dictators, with the commensurate "Terror" inbetween.

There is also an element here in the US which wishes to overthrow our Republic and replace it with the absolute authority of the State, under the guise of fairness. I'd say it's ironic that in the rest of the world they're trying to throw off the shackles of central command, while here we have a vocal minority demanding those shackles be applied.
Wine is sunlight, held together by water - Galileo Galilei
Un jour sans vin est comme un jour sans soleil - Louis Pasteur
Water separates the people of the world; wine unites them - anonymous
Wine is the most civilized thing in the world - Ernest Hemingway
Wine makes daily living easier, less hurried, with fewer tensions and more tolerance - Benjamin Franklin
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