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04/01/2012 20:41:43
 
 
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Visual FoxPro
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Internet applications
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01531947
Message ID:
01532203
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Tuvia

Thanks for your interesting comments. I see you are suggesting FiC. If they supported dbi's ctTree control I would be more excited, but I will look into your suggested alternatives.

I am not sure that I want one hosted application for all users.

Currently each company installs the software on their file servers. I was thinking of separately hosted applications for each company.

Cyril





>Happy to be of whatever help I can be. You are also always welcome to email me tuvia atsign vmgr.com
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>1. The grid is no problem. FiC takes a VFP grid and displays it in HTML using the Active Widgets grid control.
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>2. You cannot at this time use the DBI tree control, however you can use the MS tree control fine.
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>Your Q1: The VFP /FiC app runs on a server that has Windows IIS web server. The user accesses the site via a browser, and the VFP controls are translated into HTML and javascript. To your users it appears as if they are accessing a 100% HTML based application. If they look at the source code for the page in their browser, they see HTML and javascript. The appearance is controlled by a CSS file, as any website would be. FiC creates that CSS file based on the appearance of the app in native VFP. You can tweak that CSS if you wish, for example to create a different appearance for handheld devices.
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>Your Q2: No problem.
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>Your Q3: If the low cost solution you refer to is based on VFP, you should have no problem, especially after you have converted one app already.
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>Possible gotchas:
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>Non-MS third party controls, such as DBI, are not generally going to work. However you have two options for that, use a supported control, or you can use any web control. FiC allows you to customize how and what controls do what, and you can mix or match web and vfp controls.
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>You will be using west wind's webconnect to manage part of the server process. Depending on your level of comfort with that and with CSS and with VFP classes and controls, you might benefit from some initial training and/or consulting for your first project.
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>If you want to dive deeper, you can run the FAA tool from FiC cloud that analyzes your code for how much code would need to be changed and what kind of changes would be needed. The tool is very conservative and often over estimates the amount of changes in order to play it safe, so it helps to have an experienced FiC person review the results with you.
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>Tuvia
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>>Tuvia
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>>Based on your extensive experience, I'd be interested to get your suggestions.
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>>I have a financial costing application that makes extensive use of the DBI activeX control ctTree as well as FoxPro grids.
>>It typically runs on a file server network with 1 to 3 users.
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>>My application is relatively inexpensive and is not used every day - it is a tool that is run when needed.
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>>My answers to your questions:
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>>Q1: I would need to know what you wish to accomplish.
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>>I want to offer my users the ability to run my application over the web through a browser.
>>I am thinking that I would probably install /host the application separately for each user. This avoids the problem of any one issue affecting all users.
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>>Q2: Is this just general various contract apps you create for others? An in-house corporate app?
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>>This is one application that is the same for all users.
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>>Q3: What are your short term and long term goals.
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>>Occasionally I get asked for a web based solution and I would like to provide one. I would like to provide a low cost web solution.
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>>Cyril
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>>>Luis,
>>>
>>>Although I sent you an email, after reading through all the posts here, I feel it is worthwhile to add my own post to try and cut through the haze.
>>>
>>>Your question was how you can use VFP 9 and create web applications. You basically got two types of answers:
>>>
>>>Answer Type #1: "Forget it, use what I like to use, which is the super great platform XYZ"
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>>>Answer Type #3: "No problem, use the really great tool I use to web enable VFP and leverage your existing knowledge."
>>>
>>>EVERY SINGLE ANSWER GIVEN YOU IS WRONG, BECAUSE NOBODY BOTHERED TO ASK WHAT YOU NEED. They all answered pushing their own agenda.
>>>
>>>My company has expertise in many if not all the mentioned platforms. In the VFP web enabling world, we have developed FoxInCloud systems, Active Foxpro Pages apps, Active VFP apps, and about 2 gazillion similar projects. We also have applications in PHP, C#, and about a gazillion web platforms and systems.
>>>
>>>I can tell you with great accuracy what will and will not work for what you wish to do. But first I would need to know what you wish to accomplish. Is this just general various contract apps you create for others? An in-house corporate app? What are your short term and long term goals.
>>>
>>>Without that info, take every answer with a grain of salt. With that info, I can give you a solid answer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm planning to begin developing web applications but my main and almost only programming language I know, and work with, is VFP 9. So I guess I should adopt one of the mentioned above. I would like to know which one of them is the easiest to learn, the stronger to support a lot of concurrent users. Or which one would you recommend?
>>>>
>>>>TIA
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