Hi Hank,

You should have another look at Version 6 of Servoy. We are currently working with Servoy rewriting our app, and I have found Servoy to be very responsive to our requests.

I can give you some contacts if you require.

>Hi Neil,
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>Good point: I should have mentioned Servoy separately.
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>I did investigate Servoy, twice in depth, and in fact talked with a Servoy engineer by phone to get additional information (for which Servoy rated high on the "listens to customers" dimension).
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>In the end, it came down to a few things of things (despite the many things they have done that are admirable):
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>1) if you wanted to change things in the framework, you were back to Java. At the time they weren't Open Source, either, which meant getting what we would need in the IDE (builders we can build ourselves) wasn't available. As of the last Ken Levy show, where I asked the same question, the answer is the same (I had other questions which they said they would get to me on and never did): no.
>2) their mobile support isn't there in terms of ready-made themes or even modules: key modules are relegated to 3rd parties.
>3) programming is in Javascript. Even the creator of Javascript said it's currently a mess (at the last JSConf).
>4) licensing: at 10K/server/year, and that's not including failover and clustering modules, we would be paying much more in licensing than we do for Citrix, although the increased numbers of users would probably make it even, since we could have fewer servers in our farm (but not that many fewer: working with data is the heart of our application, and will be the same regardless of what we do).
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>Anyway, thanks for bringing up Servoy. It deserves separate mention.
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>Hank
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>>Hi,
>>I think you should have also had a look a Servoy.
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>>>I've created a new blog entry about the choice of development stack myself, Thomas Ganss, and Frank Camp will begin work on next month. It's less about the details than it is about making the choice. You can read it here: http://blog.prosysplus.com/2011/12/swimming-with-current.html
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>>>I'll be providing more details as we go along.