>>But it's still at the top. And it's really just a combination of the menu and toolbars. And while things aren't where you used to find them, it's opened up exploration of the product and made it easier to find everything that's there. Microsoft claims that 80% of new feature requests were for things already in the product. That means the old-style menu/toolbar combination didn't work.
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>The major trouble ..just what goes where. Specially the earlier versions, like 6.0, where they tried to clean it up by hiding rarely used menu items, but decided something was "rarely used" after only one day. It drove me nuts, bolts and the rest of the hardware store.

I wanted to throw the hammer at those responsible, to aim and then an anvil...

>Although I hate the ribbon, it's actually better than menus - only if you don't have old habits to unlearn. Getting used to is one trouble, getting unused to is two (somehow can't make it sound as good as "navika je muka jedna, a odvika dve").

A semantic filtering of options given on a large screen / even a grid might be the smarter interface - even before Siri.
But MS and smart filtered result sets are somewhat oxymoronic