>>>>> Alcoholism has been recognized as a disease by the AMA for nearly 50 years now.
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>>>>Kids not being able to pay attention in school is apparently a disease to.
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>>>>It means nothing.
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>>>>> It's treatable, it's curable, but it sure isn't just a matter of choice or willpower.
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>>>>Statistically, if its treated as a disease, isn't the treatment usually less effective (ie, always fail horribly)?
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>>>Almost all the treatment approaches fail horribly. Rehab has something like a 3% success rate. AA has probably the best record around and it's still a long shot.
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>>AA has probably the best record around?
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>>Is there any truth to that?
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>>Or just wishful thinkingon your party?
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>>http://www.passagesmalibu.com/philosophy.html
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>Re the recovery rate in AA, this site sure makes it sound like I was drinking the Kool Aid stated by at least one person there. Understandably, those who do recover have an intense gratitude and loyalty to the program, but that doesn't mean the "facts" they cite are right.
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>http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html
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>I am familiar with Passages, although I sure can't afford it. I know one person who went there. She said they get lots of celebrities, although of course they don't publicize the names.
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>>>Please don't take me wrong. I HAVE NOT GIVEN UP. It's just not an easy thing to beat. And it burns me up to take glib potshots from people like John. Just stop doing it. Yeah, right, just get over that lung cancer, it's up to you.
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>>Have you ever considered getting drunk after work?
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>>You can always do what I did.
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>>I quit my job and became an entertainer.
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>>Part of my pay is booze now.
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>That would definitely not work for me. It's hard enough for me to stay sober without having it right in front of me all the time.
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>Are you still doing the guitar stuff? I was impressed by a sample you posted once.


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