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16/02/2012 12:09:02
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Forum:
Visual FoxPro
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Other
Environment versions
Visual FoxPro:
VFP 9 SP2
OS:
Windows 7
Network:
Windows 2003 Server
Database:
Visual FoxPro
Application:
Desktop
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Thread ID:
01535072
Message ID:
01535763
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129
Like I said I don't think it's a bad tool in any way, but it's a niche product, so all the credibility and support/developer issues that you have with VFP also apply here. It's also pretty pricey for licensing especially if you go with cross-platform situations which will inhibit greater adoption I think.

Still looks interesting. I may check it out for device dev...

+++ Rick ---

>>>Rick, WinDev from PCSoft allows programming for all platforms in a single IDE and language model. Not every function is supported or applicable on every platform, obviously, but you learn one language and you can deploy for Windows, Linux, Android, other mobile devices, etc. I believe iPhone is in the works perhaps even for next release, but not 100% sure. And you can integrate other languages into the same application.
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>>I looked at this briefly and it might be interesting for device development potentially. Anything is better than developing on iOS natively with objective C IMHO :-)
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>>Not sure about the cross platform aspects. Talk about being stuck in a niche of a product that's even less known that what's left of xBase :-). Small platform, proprietary language - not sure if would trust that. Track record will be hard to prove too. Not saying that it's not potentially a good solution (since I haven't tried it) but not a path I'm particularily interested in.
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>>I think where things are interesting is when HTML5/CSS is slowly becoming the platform of choice for hardware devices of all kinds. I think we're a ways off with this but I think it will eventually happen.
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>It is true that this tool does not have the usage of a .Net. However with over 100,000 developers worldwide and a new release every year, for at least the last 6 years, and costing about Euro1000 these guys are making some serious money even if only 10% choose to purchase the upgrades. I suspect many developers will also buy multiple platforms for desktop or mobile or web development.
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>The cool thing about WinDev, for me, is that moving from VFP is simply incredibly easy. You develop projects in the same way; design tables (using visual design tools to create the database and links between files and the business rules), design form layouts using WYSIWYG like VFP form designer (same for reports), connect fields to controls, write code for events and add methods. The language comes with an internal database surpassing VFP's own database in all respects (plus connectivity to any other database) and has memo fields even. The language itself is very similar to VFP with many functions and commands which are virtually identical, for example;
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>SEEK()  ->  HSEEK()
>FOUND()  ->  HFOUND()
>DO WHILE ... ENDDO  ->  WHILE ... END
>FOR ... NEXT  ->  FOR ... END
>DO CASE ... CASE ... ENDCASE  ->  SWITCH ... CASE ...END
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>I can create forms, functions, program files, etc. almost one for one from an existing VFP application. Copy / paste the VFP code into the WinDev editor and then inline edit the VFP code to convert it to WinDev code. Of course, many things are far easier in WinDev and hence you make make use of features you didn't have before to make the new code better. Also, WinDev handles many things for you.
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>Plus, WinDev can combine multiple languages with its own so if you have PHP or .Net code or C code, etc. you can call that code from within a WinDev app directly. You can even create .Net components with WinDev.
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>It's not perfect, nothing is. It doesn't have millions of users or hundreds of websites and forums dedicated to it. It is a French product and hence documentation and help needs to be translated to English before I can use it. It has its own bugs and one has to find some ways around them. But coming from a VFP background this must be one the lowest learning curve transitions of any language I have seen and very open ended for databases or integration with other languages.
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