>>>Yes but trying to compare the two makes no sense.
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>Both involve the principle of being forced to do something, as does the Gardasil example I proposed.

hahaha - well I can see this is turned into one of those circular conversations that will get us both no where.

Look at this way - no one is forcing the adult to smoke the cigarette. If the adult isn't smart enough to take their kid to the damn doctor when their sick or preventive healthcare because of "religion" then I suddenly have an issue with this so called "religion". Hey I know - lets allow kids to get cancer and/or die - because it's the parents religions right? Nooooo I don't think so. At that point I become more interested in the child's right to live a healthy life.