>>>>>>>>>http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/13/fired-for-using-birth-control-it-could-be-possible-in-arizona/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And it's Arizona, what a surprise. Don't get me wrong, I know quite a few intelligent, sane and reasonable people from Arizona, it's just too bad they can't seem to elect the same to their State Leges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In the varying discussions arising around health issues I think it's important to remember the golden rule. If you accept someone else paying for your health care/insurance/etc, you are accepting their intrusion into every aspect of your life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do you come to that conclusion? I've never had any of the people I've worked for ask me about my health other than things like "can you lift 50 pounds" or things to see if you're able to physically do the job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you ever tried to customize the health insurance plan your employers have provided? They provide the plan, they make the rules, in accordance with state insurance law (they also make the rules).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://blog.hrinsights.com/smokers-and-fat-people-need-not-apply
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Plus..uhhh..HIPPA compliance etc etc I dont think its even legal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Legality only serves to deter not prevent. Let's suggest you believe a potential employer asks you a health related question they're not legally allowed to ask. You either refuse to answer or answer truthfully which is detrimental to your getting the job. Now what? File a complaint? Sure, and they'll get to it through the backlog in a couple years. Sue? Now you're facing the time, stress and expense of a legal case which will basically boil down to he said she said all while looking for another job.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok - but so what?
>>>>
>>>>Sooooooo, the employer providing the job makes the rules.
>>>
>>>But they're not writing the laws are they? Rules are fine as long as they're within the law - and asking these health related questions are not.
>>
>>We agree that they're not within the law asking these questions, but nevertheless they are asking them. They are providing the job...
>>
>>>>>"The guy won't want to with the recourse" isn't some justification for an employer breaking the law or the the person to not do anything about it.
>>>>
>>>>It is not a matter of justification, it's reality.
>>>
>>>The reality is that it's illegal, so anything after that makes any justification you can dream up moot.
>>
>>Are you certain you want to suggest that that one cannot ever justify breaking the law?
>
>Obviously that's not what I suggested - I'm talking about the subject at hand - not "everything" - duh!
>
>>>>>>I have a friend who was recently fired after 5 years at her job while she was on maternity leave. She had trained 2 new hires to do her job while she was out. Is that legal? Of course not. She has a no-brainer of a case and most of her friends, including a lawyer and a couple former co-workers are encouraging her to sue. Seems open and shut, right? Not for her. She doesn't want to spend her time nor endure the stress of the legal case with an infant to take care of and even if she won, she doesn't want to work for people who treated her like that. She has a year by statute to decide. In the meantime, she's out of a job she loved and her former employer has moved on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps if they had provided birth control none of that would of happened to begin with...:)
>>>>
>>>>The pregnancy was planned.
>>>
>>>I agree that the employer is a fault here - but if she elects to let them get away with it then she can't really complain about it.
>>
>>If "the reality is that it's illegal, so anything after that makes any justification you can dream up moot" then whether or not "she elects to let them get away with it" shouldn't matter.
>
>Right - but if "she elects to let them get away with it" then she shouldn't be complaining to begin with. It's like watching someone beat themselves in the head with a hammer then complaining it hurts.

The more accurate analogy is someone getting slapped by someone else. If they do not slap back are they not allowed to say "ouch"?

>>>>>>>>He who has the gold, makes the rules.