>At an allegedly tech event two Saturdays ago in Milwaukee there were two speakers from Microsoft and they both had the word evangelist in their titles. Hmmm. They were working hard plugging Windows Phone and the cloud, both of which the market has been aggravatingly slow to embrace.
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>The first person who had the title of evangelist (well, in software anyway) was Guy Kawasaki of Apple. Somewhere in Ohio Charles is probably smiling happily at that ;-)

The cloud is Microsoft's entire marketing focus. I don't even bother to read our Partner newsletters or much of anything else out of Microsoft at this point because I'm not interested in 'the cloud' and how much more we can hit the customer up for by making them dependent on it.

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>>And by and far, those people were in marketing. You work at Microsoft and the word Evangelist is in your title? You work in marketing.
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>>>I heard it directly and argued about it at several .NET and Technet events in the late 90s/early 2000s. What was their full name? What color shoes were they wearing? Gosh I don't remember. Lots of other VFPers do too Craig.
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>>>>Microsoft is a HUGE company and many people obviously were not aware of all their products. It's impossible to know about all of them. When I was at 3M, people inside the company frequently said to me, "3M sells software?" It happens in big companies. I'm not saying it's right, nor am I defending Microsoft. I'm telling you that it's the way things are.
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>>>>>In my mind that's not what really happened. Microsoft bought Fox, but never marketed it, and when you asked more or less any Microsoft employee about Fox, they usually tried to convice you to use another product, like Access or SQL server. When I many years ago contacted Microsoft Norway and asked them about Visual Foxpro, I was told that they could not help me because Visual Foxpro was not a Microsoft product. So Microsoft slowly but knowingly killed Fox, since other products earned them more money.