>It's a moot point now but that's not exactly true. VFP had object orientation before VB did, for example. It wasn't until VFP was dropped from Visual Studio -- a move largely driven by the VFP developer community, BTW -- that it began to fall behind other MS developer tools.

And the drive by the community was based on outright lies told by the M$ people here. When eTechnologia made initial versions of its compiler, all of a sudden all the bogey arguments spewed by M$ at the time were shown to be bogus. The "you will lose local database engine", "it's impossible to make local engine work with 64-bit OS", "the GUI would have to be merged with that of VS" etc etc...

Programmers know how to follow the logic of any given situation, that's their job. It was only a matter of properly setting the situation and the result could have been predicted. That so-called vote was just going through the motions, points in the prepared checklist.

Or the list of arguments didn't contain arguments - it contained threats. Whatever, that's last year's snow. Mentioning it just because you did.