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4th Amendment? Farmer one day, Felon the next
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19/04/2012 09:12:10
 
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>>>>Michigan Department of Natural Resources (DNR) is using the state Invasive Species Act to expand its jurisdiction beyond hunting and fishing to farming operations. Their controversial Invasive Species Order (ISO) prohibits certain pigs the agency deems "feral." The way it is enforcing the rule even domesticated pigs under human husbandry are suspect. Farmers, ranchers and game preserves with successful small businesses are now threatened with economic and criminal sanctions, based on the physical characteristics of their swine.
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>>>>Implementation of the ISO, as of April 1st, not only takes private property without compensation it also denies farmers of fundamental private property rights and the right to make a living. It will reduce or eliminate customer access to heritage breed pork, a product that has become increasingly popular with health conscious consumers and restaurants across the state.
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>>>>The ISO allows DNR to seize and destroy pigs raised by Michigan farmers; Michigan DNR has publicly stated they will not compensate farmers whose pigs are destroyed. Possession of prohibited swine after April 1, 2012 is a felony with penalties of up to two years in jail and $20,000 in fines.
>>>>...

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>>>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46963866/ns/business-press_releases/t/michigan-agency-creates-hardship-heritage-pig-farmers-hunting-preserves-say-legal-experts/
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>>>>Yep, I'm WAY off about the State of things.
>>>
>>>Jake, please, take a long walk. You are getting way too hotted up about things. Pigs?! Pigs have an impact on your life exactly how? You seem to be going out of your way to find things to get upset about.
>>>
>>>Listen to John Prine --
>>>
>>>Blow up your TV, throw away your paper
>>>Move to the country, build you a home
>>>Have a lot of children, feed 'em on peaches
>>>They'll all find Jesus on their own

>>>
>>>I can't find a video version of "Spanish Pipedream" but here is the one that will be mentioned in his obituary.
>>
>>Mike,, ?????
>>
>>Jake and I are often on opposite sides of any given debate, but on this one, I'm in his corner. It's not about pigs, Mike. Pigs are merely the placard so to speak. And this is one stupid order - unless you're a large hog meat producer and lobbyist.
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>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciRrXZDQJfU
>
>I wasn't disagreeing with Jake on the point, I was wondering why he thought it was worth getting worked up over.

I keep posting these types of items as an exercise in applying "first they came" to the present state of our nation. Eventually I will touch on something to get even you "worked up".

Here's a couple more:

Cops take children's DNA without parental consent
The Sacramento Sheriff's Department, which has been spearheading the investigation into the murder of Jessica Funk-Haslam, 13, said parental consent was not required in the DNA collection and interview of minors, several of whom were taken out of class during the day last week at Albert Einstein Middle School.

"These are interviews, not interrogations," Sheriff's Deputy Jason Ramos told ABCNews.com. "They are all consensual. Once it's done, there is a mechanism in place for school administrators to notify parents."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/cops-school-kids-dna-murder-case-012952307--abc-news-topstories.html

There's also the MAP-21 within the current transportation bill which contains 2 interesting items.
1) IRS will be able to revoke passports of US citizens if they owe $50k or more in unpaid taxes, without a conviction.
2) "Black boxes" will be required in all new cars starting in 2015
See sections 40304 & 31406 of the bill here : http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text

ciRrXZDQJfU
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