Tamar

I appreciate the effort you are going to, but you're not going to win. I think it's another case of "Regious oppression" that the Religious Right and the GOP have been touting. You know, the "you're oppressing me because you won't let me oppress others" thing. It's really a pity when people forget to actually READ the book.

It becomes more of a pity when, if they actually stopped a moment and realized that no one is stopping them from praying anywhere they want to - we just want to stop them from forcing everyone else to join in. No one is trying to tell them how to worship their God, except other groups of them and they can fight amonst themselves all they want - just don't drag the rest of us into it.

To me, the telling thing is when you look at someone who espouses things like this and say "Fine, you want prayers in school? Then we have a Catholic prayer, a Protestant prayer, a Muslim prayer, a Jewish prayer, a Hindu prayer, a Buddist prayer, etc" and watch them scream oppression of Christianity.

Freedom of Religion is also Freedom FROM Religion



>>>>>>http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/18/11273229-group-blasts-marine-corps-for-reviving-crusaders-name-and-symbols?lite
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>>>>>>God forbid the Muslims get offended,
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>>>>>I'm not a Muslim and I'm offended by my tax dollars being spent to have a unit called "The Crusaders." Crusaders were folks who marched across Europe and killed people (possibly including my ancestors) who didn't belong to their religion.
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>>>>>Aside from this particular imagery, there's a problem in the US military of religious intolerance with non-Christian members being harassed about it. Religious imagery has no place in the military.
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>>>>What a crock.
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>>>What's a crock? That crusaders were killers, or that the military has a problem with intolerance by Christians?
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>>Killers? Intolerance?
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>>That's called Islam.
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>>How far does the military have to go to make itself socially acceptable to you? Pull all the crosses off the graves? Require all members renounce their faith (and there are a hell of a lot of them even now in the age of immorality)? Religious intolerance by athiests who require everyone to bend to their will so they won't be offended by things they don't believe or care about is absolutely hypocritical.
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>What the military has to do is allow all members to practice their own religions or choose to practice no religion without being harassed and without fear that their choices will cost them promotions. Knowing that you'll reject articles from most sources, here's one from ABC:
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>http://abcnews.go.com/US/US/story?id=1028372&page=1#.T5Gct9XzCpl
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>I'm including this one, though I know nothing about the site, because it includes a lot of detail:
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>http://pubrecord.org/religion/827/doj-disputes-atheists-claim-of-religious-intolerance-in-military/
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>>Why are athiests, Islamics, homosexuals and mutants, and 'people of color' the only ones who can be offended? Of course then there are those who will be offended for them (like you).
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>This isn't about being offended. This is about a hostile environment for many Americans in the US military.
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>Tamar