>>>>Most of us even on the "left" are reasonably rational
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>>>>That is certainly open to debate <s>. In my experience, liberals tend toward emotional arguments while conservatives tend toward factual arguments.
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>>>But I am not a liberal, Marcia my dear <g>. Only by the definition of some conservatives.
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>>I almost spit my coke all over my monitors. You are joking, right? By the pure definition of Obama's liberalism, you're right there, buddy....
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>Please provide the "pure definition of Obama's liberalism" and then we can discuss it.

Big Government, Trillion dollar bailouts, Government is the be all and end all., you can't manage your life, so we'll do it for you....
Handouts to everyone with no responsibility attached, political correctness mandatory, emotional responses to fact, etc.