I've got that down. My dilemma is when to record this. DockPosition reads falsely in the UnDock event. I have worked around it by duplicating my write code and overwriting the dockposition property explicitly with -1, but I don't like this. Too much code... :). I think this is how it will have to work though.

>Erik,
>I've used the DockPosition property to record/restore toolbar position. A value of -1 means undocked, 0 means top, etc... It works well for me...
>Mark
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>>I am building the ability in my toolbar class for the toolbars to record and remember their position and docked status to and from the registry, in effect remembering the user's settings. I am running into some trouble because I can't find a good time to record the docked status. It appears that in a toolbar's destroy method, oToolbar.docked is always .F.. So I tried it in the After dock and undock methods. The After dock works but the Undock method shows oToolbar.docked still = .T. Aaargh.
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>>Has anyone else done this, and do you have any advice for me?