>>>>>>Top doctor's chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year
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>>>>>>NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
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>>>>>>Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
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>>>>>>He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country.
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>>>>>>It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.
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>>>>>>It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.
>>>>>>There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent – 130,000 – are of patients who were on the LCP.
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>>>>>>Professor Pullicino claimed that far too often elderly patients who could live longer are placed on the LCP and it had now become an ‘assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway’.
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>>>>>>He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.
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>>>>>>Professor Pullicino revealed he had personally intervened to take a patient off the LCP who went on to be successfully treated.
>>>>>>He said this showed that claims they had hours or days left are ‘palpably false’.
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>>>>>Successfully treated. For what? I assume the patient must be alive and healthy now.
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>>>>You could keep reading, hence the
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>>>>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/Top-doctors-chilling-claim-The-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html#ixzz1yK7gbr7D
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>>>>>Better off doing health care Jake's way. If you have the $$, you get health care. Otherwise, drop dead.
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>>>>Better off doing health care NHS way. If your old, drop dead.
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>>>You might live long enough to get old.
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>>Life Expectancy ~2% difference
>>UK 80.17
>>US 78.49
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>So they still have a higher life expectancy even though they are killing off their old people because the National Health Care system wants to get rid of them. Hmm.

Your suggestion that we will not live to old age in the US is directly refuted by the average life expectancy. My point that the NHS is killing the elderly as a matter of policy because they are too expensive, remains.

>The US ranks a nice solid 50th place in life expectancy according to your source. Beats Yemen I guess.

Yes, and there are a number of factors as for why that is, however, there is nothing to suggest that Americans are not achieving "old" age as you suggested.

>>https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html
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>>He said: ‘The lack of evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway makes it an assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway.
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>>‘Very likely many elderly patients who could live substantially longer are being killed by the LCP.
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>>‘Patients are frequently put on the pathway without a proper analysis of their condition.
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>>‘Predicting death in a time frame of three to four days, or even at any other specific time, is not possible scientifically.
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>>This determination in the LCP leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy. The personal views of the physician or other medical team members of perceived quality of life or low likelihood of a good outcome are probably central in putting a patient on the LCP.’